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Someone has finally articulated the problem I've been having with the "all cops are bastards" rhetoric I've been seeing passed around: https://fierceawakening.tumblr.com/post/621384732687679489/marcusseldon-im-not-a-fan-of-the-all-cops-are

For systemic problems, you change the system. Which absolutely can and should include going after individuals who were so corrupted by the system that they're committing crimes, but if you cast it as "every single cop is personally evil" and not as "this system is extremely broken and corrupting people", that actually leads you *away* from real systemic change. Certainly the proposed fix of replacing cops with social workers ignores that while social workers can't outright kill you, there's plenty of abuse of power in their ranks too. A starting question to examine where the power trip sensibility comes from might be to ask what cops and social workers have in common, and then if we find something that's a plausible cause among those commonalities, how we might remove it.
 

(Today, in our continuing series of "Kit reads Politics Tumblr so YOU don't have to!")

Date: 2020-06-20 12:54 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] squirrelitude
« Today, in our continuing series of "Kit reads Politics Tumblr so YOU don't have to!" »

Oh thank god. :-P

I'm part way through https://medium.com/@OfcrACab/confessions-of-a-former-bastard-cop-bb14d17bc759 which phrases it as a systemic problem that intentionally *produces* (and attracts) "personally evil" people, which seems like a pretty important bridge between the two, with an actually concrete explanation of what the corrupting influences look like. (Mostly police academy, so far.)

Date: 2020-06-20 09:56 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] elusiveat
Yes, WriterKit, and yes, Squirrelitude.

I think a big part of the problem is the strongly hierarchical system created by the dominant brand of capitalism. As the "former bastard cop" notes, the police are agents for enforcing capitalism. As such, abolishing the police is a systemic change that does require serious consideration. But the problems of hierarchy are everywhere: social work, academia, health care. People on lower tiers, whether customers or lower-tier workers are abused and/or overworked by people on higher tiers who can't see any other way of doing things because of the nature of the system. Even sociopaths would be well-behaved if we didn't have a system that consistently rewards sociopathy.

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