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Hugo Drama, Again
Jun. 24th, 2021 12:24 amThe entire Hugo management team has resigned. I'm sure there's some escalation of the existing drama and I'm sure we'll hear about it.
Meanwhile, some straightforward opinions on the items known to be in contention:
Wanting to list everyone on your creative team in the slideshow is reasonable at the level of "number of people likely to have collaborated on a magazine staff or similar," but much like AO3 tags there should still be some limits for that-- they're just fairly high limits and I don't think we've gotten to them yet. (Wanting to list everyone on your entire creative team on the ballot is a bit dicier; the ballot does still need to be usable as a ballot which means it needs to be fairly concise, but there's nothing wrong with an asterisk saying "the full list of people involved can be viewed here" and a link to a website.)
An awards ceremony in meatspace has limitations imposed by the size of the hotel ballroom, the necessity of getting people on and off the stage, and the amount of time taken by speeches. A limit on number of people per item who can get into the award ceremony is in no way unreasonable and the people insisting that "you get X tickets and X minutes for speeches and you can divide that among your staff however you choose" is somehow cheapening their nomination are being unreasonable, and the veiled "this is a slight by the old guard against the progressive modern folks!" undertones to some of the complaints are an example of going looking for a fight.
The convention committee is horrendously bad at communicating about any of this.
Meanwhile, some straightforward opinions on the items known to be in contention:
Wanting to list everyone on your creative team in the slideshow is reasonable at the level of "number of people likely to have collaborated on a magazine staff or similar," but much like AO3 tags there should still be some limits for that-- they're just fairly high limits and I don't think we've gotten to them yet. (Wanting to list everyone on your entire creative team on the ballot is a bit dicier; the ballot does still need to be usable as a ballot which means it needs to be fairly concise, but there's nothing wrong with an asterisk saying "the full list of people involved can be viewed here" and a link to a website.)
An awards ceremony in meatspace has limitations imposed by the size of the hotel ballroom, the necessity of getting people on and off the stage, and the amount of time taken by speeches. A limit on number of people per item who can get into the award ceremony is in no way unreasonable and the people insisting that "you get X tickets and X minutes for speeches and you can divide that among your staff however you choose" is somehow cheapening their nomination are being unreasonable, and the veiled "this is a slight by the old guard against the progressive modern folks!" undertones to some of the complaints are an example of going looking for a fight.
The convention committee is horrendously bad at communicating about any of this.
